Noynoy’s Service Record

@Hustisya

That’s what JOKER said.

Legislating a law is priority one for legislators.

Which, from your definition Mr Arroyo, proves that Noy is not a capable leader. His inability to push his SELECTED bills into laws shows incompetency.

Good morning.

@Engr. and Manuel FG Villaroyo
“@Polscimajor, di ka pa pala nakapagtapos masyado na malakas ang hangin sa ulo mo, ang yabang mo na. You really are a troll, boy! Astang matalino wala na mang laman ang mga sinasabi.”

“MORDZ, tama ka sa iyong kaalaman. Ito ksi si PlSciMinor estudyante palang kung umasta parang pinoy henyo siya. Ayan tloy may nakatapat kang di hamak na magaling sa iyo. Mag-aral ka muna PolsciMInor, marami ka pang kakaining bigas, bata…”

As always, you’re both wrong.

People,

I GRADUATED in 2008 earning a Bachelor’s Degree in POLITICAL SCIENCE.

I’m referring to my Wednesday class in Law School. =)

Now, let’s get down to business.

@Mordz:

I. “In the interest of having an objective argument, I refrain from commenting about how I felt (although I felt funny sometimes with the way you answer). If I were your Philosophy or PolSci teacher, I will be scratching my head. Anyway, as you demanded logic, let’s analyze your responses.”

Epic fail. You will refrain from what again?

II. “Your response is basically a non-response to the question. How to make relevant laws? Make laws. The least, it is a usual sophist’s response. I don’t have to argue more. I just hope that your philosophy teacher will not read your argument.”

Eh? Where is the deception? I have answered your question validly. On the contrary, your “comment” seems to be a sophist’s response. Focus on the argument not on using terms which may deceive or persuade readers that you have a valid argument.

III. “What? I hope you are not really a PolSci Major. If you are, please review your notes. Again, authoring laws is not equivalent to Legislative Accomplishments. In fact, revisions in laws usually will come after deliberations. Those who asked questions (fiscalize) will influence the shaping of the law. However, this does not necessarily make them authors of the law. Thus, it is pointless to say that they don’t have “accomplishments.”
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“In contrary, arguing that these are not accomplishments (fiscalizing) will defeat the purpose of Congress. If you can’t have a discourse/debate in Congress, forget Congress altogether.”

That is already answered. Participation in debates in Congress/being a fiscalizer is NOT an ACCOMPLISHMENT. It’s natural and expected to a Congressman or a Senator. Please check the website of the House or the Senate. Be enlightened.

IV. “Your first premise agrees with mine. However, the second contention is quite absurd (in terms of logic). The fact is “fiscalizing” is a main job. How can you have a debate when nobody opposes? The concept of having a minority is a built-in mechanism in Congress for the very purpose of “checking and balancing” proposed laws (bills) to make it more relevant. Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Augustine, Marx, Rand and other Philosophers (who argue a lot) believed that it is not possible to put a Synthesis without a Thesis and Antithesis (well, I’m using the term of Hegel). Again, Congress will be impossible if there are no debates.”

Now that is sophism. No need to brag Plato and friends here. Go direct to the point. Again “fiscalizing” is not a main job. Anybody can do that. Next time, organize first your thoughts before posting.

V. “This makes me laugh! Your logic is no longer upbeat. The deficiency is in the implementation. And what was your proposal? Why can’t he repeal the deficient laws? Look back. The deficiency is not in the law but its implementation.”

EXAMPLE: Anti-Hazing Law. (a law which is known for lack of implementation)

A member of Congress can file a bill to repeal the law for purposes of addressing it’s lack of implementation. The subject of the repeal may include the covered departments and agencies in the law or it’s penal provision. The implementation of laws is not the concern of the Congress.

VI. “I fully believe you. However, it should be emphasized that track records should be read in the lens of honest competence. But let’s rewind a bit. Whom will you vote? Gordon (the way he handled the Subic crisis years ago is already sign of what is coming)? Gibo (He knew what will happen if a rival of Ampatuan emerges, and yet, he virtually tolerated it; thus, the Ampatuan Massacre. All people from Maguindanao knew that Gibo as defense secretary is virtually useless and powerless against Ampatuans. I know this because I’m from Mindanao )? Villar (If he can assert that he did not gain anything from C5 barefaced despite the evidences, then we will know what is coming.)? Erap (no need to explain)? So, I would appreciate if you can pinpoint to me your candidate so I can further judge how your logic works.”

Question. Do you represent all the Maguindanaoans? =)

What ? Lumalangoy na kayo sa dagat ng kasinungalingan. Joker Arroyo saying that legislating law is priority for senators samantalang si Joker Arroyo, in spite of siya ang pinakabeterano in terms of tenure sa congress at senado ay walang naipasang bill kahit isa. Mas marami pa ngang naisumeteng bills si Noynoy kaysa sa kanya in spite Noynoy is barely 3 years sa senado. Ano ba naman kayo ?

Furthermore, hindi porke hindi naging law ang mga naisubmit na bills ay incompetency na yun. Ang bills ni Noynoy ay mostly pro- labor and anti-corruption—-sa palagay mo madaling ipasa yun samantalang ang majority ay umaalalay sa gobyernong GMA na corrupt at anti-labor ?

Sabi nga pala rin ni Joker, LAHAT nang legislation ni Villar ay para lang sa kanyang business….so bakit nakapasa.

Connect natin yan sa allegation ni Enrile na nanunuhol si Villar.

Ergo; kapag hindi nakakapasa ang mga bills, hindi sign of incompetency. Sign yan na HINDI NANUNUHOL si NOYNOY. He-he….

kaibigang Alberto D. Pempengco…
dapat isinaman mo ung mga naaprubahan at naging batas, hindi ba?…
ano silbi ng bills kung hindi naman naipasa?…
kung baga sa estudyante, puro review pero nung exam absent kaya hindi rin nakapasa…
sa susunod ipost mo naman ung mga naipasa at kung ano itong mga naipasa para may basehan ka at ikaw mismo makakakita kung sino ang nakinabang sa mga ipinasa nilang batas…
baka ikaw mismo magulat kung bakit nila ipinilit ipasa iyon…
at baka kaya yumaman ng husto ang iba dun…

Alberto, sa 405 na bills ni Villar ilan ang naging batas. Aber, pakita mo nga?

@Awie;

no i am not advertizing any site. pinoy exhcange is the first thing in my mind, because it’s already there even before Noy filed his candidacies for the senate and presidency. Aside from the fact, pex has thousand members, it’s good for discussions.

about manny villar, just bring that to his site or any internet thread for him.

So, PEX is not a place for you, but you like being Home-Boy here and brag anything you like against other candidates. may kasabihan mga bata jan; “sa ilalim ng bubong mo, doon ka lang matapang” ? come out to the open space.

but i think you don’t have to, because others bring it to your own backyard. So, Don’t Worry.

@Awie,

Pasingit Ulit, bakit may awaiting moderation na . okey, got to filter something. but i suggest, just use some scriptings for sensored words for this site. instead of “awaiting moderation”, it’s just destroying the flows of comments.

But just an opinion though.

Eddie boy, are you a gay? bakit ka pumapatol sa babae.

Manny Villar:”My mother taught me to work hard and not to steal and wait until I have the opportunity to have what I want.”

Simple lang ang argument.

Everything boils down to the question, ano ba talaga ang pwedeng sabihing accomplishment?

Sabi nila bills filed. But bills are nothing if they are not passed into law. Therefore, bills can not be considered as a measure of competence because the more bills you submitted which were not passed into law, the more time, money and effort were wasted.

Tanong ko ; Wasting time, effort and money = competence ? Mali po

On the cpontrary, the more waste you make the more incompetent you become, di ba ?

Furthermore, which is more important. making the law or making the law work?

Alam natin na muntik nang mamatay si Noynoy defending democracy and the constitution. He came back from his comfortable secured zone and into the danger zone during one of the coups. to make sure the legitimate government and seat of power is safe. In the process, nabaril siya ng mga rebelde. Di ba mas matindi yun kaysa sa paggawa ng batas ?

Ang batas ay walang silbi kung di pinatutupad, si ba ?

In order to uphold the law, nagpunta siya sa korte suprema in order to question the legality of inacting additional district sa cam sur as a political accomodation to a malacanang friend. Yes, Noynoy did not make the law, but he made sure it is being implemented. Hindi ba accomplishment yun ?

@PolsciMajor a.k.a. Law Student with a Wednesday Class

Your post: People, I GRADUATED in 2008 earning a Bachelor’s Degree in POLITICAL SCIENCE. I’m referring to my Wednesday class in Law School. =)

Comment: Law Student… Bwahahahaha! Epic brag… Law Student… Hahahaha!

Your Post: Now, let’s get down to business.

Comment : Me too.

Your Post: Epic fail. You will refrain from what again?

Comment: Sorry… I can’t contain myself from laughing.

My Contention: “Your response is basically a non-response to the question. How to make relevant laws? Make laws. The least, it is a usual sophist’s response. I don’t have to argue more. I just hope that your philosophy teacher will not read your argument.”

Your Response: Eh? Where is the deception? I have answered your question validly. On the contrary, your “comment” seems to be a sophist’s response. Focus on the argument not on using terms which may deceive or persuade readers that you have a valid argument.

Comment: So where’s the argument with my critic/contention? Nada. Tsk.tsk.tsk…

My Contention: “Again, authoring laws is not equivalent to Legislative Accomplishments. In fact, revisions in laws usually will come after deliberations. Those who asked questions (fiscalize) will influence the shaping of the law. However, this does not necessarily make them authors of the law. Thus, it is pointless to say that they don’t have “accomplishments.” -and- “In contrary, arguing that these are not accomplishments (fiscalizing) will defeat the purpose of Congress. If you can’t have a discourse/debate in Congress, forget Congress altogether.”

Your Response: That is already answered. Participation in debates in Congress/being a fiscalizer is NOT an ACCOMPLISHMENT. It’s natural and expected to a Congressman or a Senator. Please check the website of the House or the Senate. Be enlightened.

My Comment: Mr. Law Student, check and read not only the website of our Congress, go back to the history of classic democracy. It is true that “fiscalizing” is a “natural” and expected function of Congress. Thus, if somebody is doing it… he is accomplishing a function. Ergo, it is an accomplishment. Read your foundations/philosophy of law and be enlightened.

My Contention: “Your first premise agrees with mine. However, the second contention is quite absurd (in terms of logic). The fact is “fiscalizing” is a main job. How can you have a debate when nobody opposes? The concept of having a minority is a built-in mechanism in Congress for the very purpose of “checking and balancing” proposed laws (bills) to make it more relevant. Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Augustine, Marx, Rand and other Philosophers (who argue a lot) believed that it is not possible to put a Synthesis without a Thesis and Antithesis (well, I’m using the term of Hegel). Again, Congress will be impossible if there are no debates.”

Your Response: Now that is sophism. No need to brag Plato and friends here. Go direct to the point. Again “fiscalizing” is not a main job. Anybody can do that. Next time, organize first your thoughts before posting.

My Comment: Where is your argument with my contention? Where is the sophism? Nada. Wala pa rin. No need to brag them, just read their works. And sorry if you could not comprehend how I organize my thoughts. I expected a higher IQ contender.

My Contention: The point of Noynoy is not in the sufficiency of laws but rather on the deficiency of the implementation.

Your Response: Why can’t he repeal the deficient laws?
EXAMPLE: Anti-Hazing Law. (a law which is known for lack of implementation)
A member of Congress can file a bill to repeal the law for purposes of addressing it’s lack of implementation. The subject of the repeal may include the covered departments and agencies in the law or it’s penal provision.

My Comment: Now I want to hide my self under the bed. ? Please ask your law professor again. Your example is wrong! Goodness gracious. Please pinpoint to me the bill turned into law stipulating that anti-hazing law was repealed due to lack of implementation. Whoah! OK. Granting that this particular law lacks implementation; will it be a wise solution to repeal it? For sanity sake, please read more. You are now confusing terms my friend: your law, polsci and philosophy professors will “whip” you. Since you are very strict with grammar as you have posted in some other blogs, you may as well check your syntax (it’s).

Your Contention: The implementation of laws is not the concern of the Congress.

My Comment: Exactly the point. That’s why Noynoy is running for President.

My Contention: “I fully believe you. However, it should be emphasized that track records should be read in the lens of honest competence. But let’s rewind a bit. Whom will you vote? Gordon (the way he handled the Subic crisis years ago is already sign of what is coming)? Gibo (He knew what will happen if a rival of Ampatuan emerges, and yet, he virtually tolerated it; thus, the Ampatuan Massacre. All people from Maguindanao knew that Gibo as defense secretary is virtually useless and powerless against Ampatuans. I know this because I’m from Mindanao )? Villar (If he can assert that he did not gain anything from C5 barefaced despite the evidences, then we will know what is coming.)? Erap (no need to explain)? So, I would appreciate if you can pinpoint to me your candidate so I can further judge how your logic works.”

Your Response: Do you represent all the Maguindanaoans? =)

My Comment: Where is your argument again? I never said I represented Mindanao, that’s a concoction and contortion of your logic again. But here is my question: Did Gibo, given that he has enough power as Secretary of Defense, prevent the massacre?

Note: I will no longer reply to whatever your response. I will rather channel my energy to have an intellectual discourse with opponents who have “meaty” comments. I am not antagonizing you. Read more, think more. Who knows? I might respond again.

Hope someone can summarize all the comments here, see the big picture. All comments created sub plots and sub arguments which always derails this page or topic.

In this Page which said: Noy has Service record; He was members of functioning committee (legistive function), has selected bills and an Initiative (Note: one initiative).

That’s for 9 Years as legislator. And Now? since he has no experiences in administrative level, he was not governor, mayor or even barangay captain, THEN, forget about ACCOMPLISHMENTs from being administrator or executive. Let’s give him the BENEFITs of doubt in that case.

BUT since he is legislator for 9 years, and has those experience listed above, so let us move on to accomplishment, achievements, fruits of his labor, highlights of his career as ligislator, member of committees.

LET us not forget the gravity or responsibilty or previlege of the POST he is seeking right NOW, THE office of the president – Civilian Government’s Highest POST & COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of AFP, Can invoke special powers from the CONGRESS in case of Emergency LIKE war. Head of the State and Government – A leader of all filipino citizens here and abroad. TO be Saluted by more than a thousand troops who are trained hard to put their lives on the line if necessary.

Now, in that case, let us put his accomplishment into microscop because running a government, AFP & a country is NO JOKE. Wait… for all those years and membership in congress, where is the fruits/products of his labor… simple request = CREATED or REPEALED laws since he is not governor or mayor or brgy captain, he is a legislator. BUT he has NONE.

NOW, it boils down to INTEGRITY again and again. but there’s always a question tagged on that. everyone can claim he has integrity and personality or good character. BUT why integrity alone? but please i don’t believe he(noy) has one. but thats just my opinion. in fact all the candidates right now, as for me, BY DEFAULT they have no integrity.

but WHY not INTEGRITY + Proven Track Record + Accomplishments in government service? by accomplishment i mean there’s a fulfilment or there’s a result(from projects and/or programs, in noy case, laws, ie, TAX law has an impact of our everyday lives). PRESIDENCY is not a joke, it’s a very serious JOB that may (or may not) affect millions(Money or People) by just one directive or executive order.

AGAIN, we are electing a PRESIDENT not a Pope or saint, a very powerful and influencial man within our political boundary – can only be challenged BY congress. Don’t tell me we choose someone because of his family name is heroes’ name or JUST merely of his integrity while has no proven visible accomplishments (Projects OR Programs, again in his case – LAWs).

@Polscimajor, I’ll say it again, you are naive but full of air. How can you say that debating, fiscalizing a proposed legislation is not an accomplishment? How can a bill be passed into relevant law when there is no one who debated/fiscalized for it in the plenary either in negative or positive side? How can something be accomplished when there is no accomplished components? How can someone accomplishment something without passing an assembly point? Lawmaking is a collective undertaking, it has to be voted by majority of the members of the lower house, with parallel bill approved in the upper house, adopted by the bicameral conference committee and signed by the President, before a Bill becomes a Law. No lawmaker can solely claim an accomplishment of the passage of the laws he authored.

You have to consider also the different interest groups that are lobbying for the passage and rejection of laws.
Your proposition that Noynoy has accomplish nothing in almost 12 years as legislator is plain falsity.

to all Anti Noynoy, I know that no amount of explanation can ever convince you to appreciate and to just even respect our support for Noynoy .In the same manner that a single word from your candidate could just easily make the best for you.
Villar has been marred with lantarang pangungurakot sa bayan yet not even a single word ay maririning namin sa inyo.He rose to riches behind a questionalbe reasons . Binobomba ang tao sa bilyones niyang pera just to make them vote for him,yet your group even appreciated him for that .
You are criticizing Noynoy of his performance while you are glorifying Gibo of being the best,even to the fact in his 9 years in Congress he has no legislative records,he sided with the Corrupts,he even tried to unseat the SC Chief in revenge for its ruling against his uncle regarding the coco levy fund . That in his districts,out of 10 municipalities under him,majority of it are still a 5th class municipalities and not even one has been chartered or become a city .In DND he has not intitated a concrete program,even,in his administration that the worst were happening. Naniwala rin kayo na walang corruption sa AFP-DND,but just recently ikinukulong kaagad ang nagsisiwalat ng kabulukan sa AFP . He knew that the massacre in Maguindanao was imminent yet nothing has been done to prevent it .
You mock Noynoy but his district is compose of the ist class City in the province of Tarlac,every municipality is now gearing very fast forward . He fight corruption and never steal in his public service .
Lahat kayo at lahat ng kandidato nyo under GMA (Villar,gibo and Gordon) ay iisa lamang ang kalaban and that is Noynoy ,they never go against each other ,primarily because they are of the same specie .
You are making a mockery even the whole aquino family , even for a fact na sila lamang ang hindi ganid sa kapangyarihan , hindi kagaya ni Villar na ang asawa ay kaagapay niya in serving their own personal interest.
Gordon has been marred with corruption during the Ramos time , he was knwon to be a shareman not a chairman of SBMA . He took SBMA as his own property na kahit expired na ang term ,ayaw pa ring ibigay sa gobyerno,hinihimok pa ang tao na magrebelde sa gobyerno, Kapag ito ang maging presidente,for sure ,hindi na ito aalis dahil SBMA lang nakipagpatayan na ,buong pilipinas pa kaya.
Hindi kagaya ni gibo na andiyan asawa at nanay na kasakasama sa politika .
Hindi kagaya ni Gordon na asawa ,anak at kapatid ay ang naghahari sa olongapo .
Even Brother Eddie , ay pinakalat din ang lahi nila sa gobyerno.
Ang mga Politikong ito ay ginawang HANAPBUHAY NG BUONG PAMILYA ang pagseserbisyo sa bayan at ngayon lahat sila ay galit sa isang tao na ang hangad ay ang magkaroon ng malinis na lipunan . They know na if Noynoy will be the president ,tapos ang maliligayang araw nila .
We will make sure Noynoy will win because we cannot allow that our country will once again be govern by the crooks of this society ….we will fight for it,I promise .

@Denver,I agree with you bugbog na si Noynoy, dahil pinagtutulung-tulungan ng mga taong hindi kabutihan ng bayan ang pinaglalabanan with only Agenda is to just put down Noynoy. You don’t really care how many times Villar will steal our money,you don’t care if Gordon will claim not just SBMA but the whole country as his OWN and you don’t care if gibo will continue to glorify GMA,continue to glorify the Marcoses and to continue the corrupt system of this society. You really don’t care at all because there is only one agenda in your mind and that is to put down Noynoy ..and nothing else . Mas minahal at pihalagahan pa ninyo ang mga taong nagnanakaw sa ating bayan ….
Villar supporters,Gordon supporters and Gibo supporters are just one ,they belong to the same team ,they never fight each other ,they all belong to the same specie and they only have one cause and that is to mock and to discredit the Aquinos and the people behind the Yellow Army .
Sa tingin nila ito na ang kanilang panahon, ito na ang kanilang hinihintay at ito na ang panahon to regain the glory they once had .

magtatanong lang mga kaibigan…
ano ba ang mga blogsite ng ibang kandidato?…
subukan ko naman dun pumasok para makipagkwentuhan kung meron man dun mga bloggers na matitino ang isip…
pansin ko lang kasi, ung mga pumapasok sa blogsite ni noynoy ay walang ibang intensiyon kundi ang mangulit lang gumawa ng mga kwentong sila mismo ay hindi maipaliwanag…

@PolSciMajor PolSci major ka ba talaga? Let’s engage in an intellectual conversation. Give me your reasons why you wouldn’t vote for Noynoy

Kaya pala binastos ni Vilar ang senado. Alam niya na JUSTICE can be STIFLED by his MONEY. Kung hindi madadaan sa suhol, dadaanin ni Villar sa advertisements na naman. See? Hindi lang pala kalayaan natin ang dinurog ng KWARTA ni Villar. Hindi lang pala dignidad natin ang NIYURAKAN ng PERA ni VILLAR. Hindi lang pala ang halalan natin ang nawalan ng bisa nang tapatan ng KWARTA ni Villar. Pati pala ang JUDICIAL SYSTEM natin ay HINAMBALOS na rin at GINAHASA ng KWARTA ni VILLAR.

Papayag ba tayo ?

Kung pwedeng maging presidente si Villar sa dami ng kanyang mga advertisement. Kung pwede niyang takbuhan ang batas sapapapagitan ng dami ng kanyang mga commercials. Di malayong, kung magiging pangulo si Villar, gagamitin din niya ang kanyang commercials para gawing diktador ang kanyang sarile at maging pangulo habang buhay. Di nga ba at ganun ang ginawa ni Marcos noong araw ?

Pag-isipan po natin ito.

@pasingit_ulit,kaibigan kumusta? Meron ding ganyan sa mga comments ko pero okey lang at least pumapasok naman..palagay ko sa filtering lang iyan.. which I think covers all commnents on this topic lang naman , meron kasing sobrang bastos na rin..kaya okey lang.